There’s Barack Obama’s “Four more years” tweet. There’s the Ellen Oscars selfie tweet. And there’s Seth Rogen’s Justin Bieber tweet.

Monday on The Howard Stern Show, Rogen explained what’s behind his disdain for the Biebs.

“I met him a few times. He’s a good example of someone who you meet who you think you’re gonna hate, and then you get to hate him as much as you think,” Rogen said. “You meet him, and he lives up to every one of your expectations of how you hope he will be.”

Rogen recalled first meeting Bieber on a German talk show. According to Rogen, he was asked to leave his dressing room and meet Bieber. Then, Bieber acted as if it were Rogen, and not the pop star, who wanted the introduction.

Two years later, the two crossed paths again, this time at an MTV award show where Bieber, according to Rogen, was wearing a snake on his wrist as “an accoutrement.” That drove home the fact that, in Rogen’s eyes, Bieber was “a little bit of a motherf—-.”

“When I met Zac Efron, one of the most endearing things is he recognized that as a Disney star, I, as a man in my late 20s and early 30s would f—— hate him because why wouldn’t I,” Rogen explained. “Justin Bieber had zero percent of that. No part of his brain. No humility, no awareness, no sense that, ‘I appeal to young people, maybe a grown man who works in comedy doesn’t f—— give a sh– about me, and maybe I should act in such a way that perhaps isn’t the greatest experience of his f—— life to meet me.’ And he had none of that.”

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