Men and relationships are a tough nut to crack — well maybe until now.

Indie host Pete Dominick welcomed former Cosmo Radio host (now Sports Zone host) Patrick Meagher to Stand Up! a few months back to shed some light on the subject of men, sex, intimacy and even emotional insecurities.

So what does Meagher say about relationships? Formerly host of the Cocktails with Patrick show on Cosmo Radio for 8 years, he confessed that having to talk non-stop about relationships on-air caused him to have a sort of aversion to relationships in general. As a result, he has resorted to random flings here and there; flings that end up leaving him with an incredibly guilty conscious.

The notion of having a guilty conscious shed a whole new light on men and their personal insecurities. As Meagher believes, it’s not only women that have internal demons. “Guys are probably just as insecure, probably more insecure, than women,” Meagher said. “The idea that there’s this Mars and Venus thing is just preposterous. The similarities are way, way more alike.”

After dabbling in each hosts’ personal insecurities, a listener call-in sparked a conversation on monogamy and emotional cheating. So why do guys cheat? To Meagher, it all comes back to insecurities, noting that the “high” men get from sleeping with a woman is “empty” and only temporary. “Guys don’t cheat because they want to have sex. Guys cheat because of an insecurity associated with the chase to have sex,” Meagher said.

Where do those insecurities stem from? Meagher notes that it may arise from a sense of not feeling loved and of being insecure within a relationship, which in turn can cause dissatisfaction. To Dominick though, there is no true relationship that is rid of some sort of dissatisfaction, admitting that what he has with his wife is the closest thing to perfection he can even imagine. It’s that balance that is healthy and, as Meagher points out, may in fact be the definition of ‘love.’ “The good outweighs the bad, that’s love,” Meagher said. “What you [Dominick and his wife] found is love.”

After being so up-front about such intimate topics, one of Dominick’s listeners called in to thank the Indie host for his honesty, noting that it was admirable to hear an on-air personality be so open. Although Dominick admitted to not being one to take advice from, Meagher noted that it’s from being personal with your listeners that makes you more relatable.”If you started talking about something political or social after this it’s going to matter more because now people feel like they can connect to you more,” Meagher said. “It’s Human 101.”

What’s something that Meagher cares personally about?  Women’s issues. “I champion women. I grew up with a divorced mom and two sisters. I was in the middle,” Meagher said. “Part of the reason I think I do this is because of the fact that I think it is my duty in some way to start closing the gender gap.” Both hosts agree that when it comes to conflict, men’s egos tend to get in the way, women, as Meagher puts it, unequivocally deal with conflict better than men.

“I think if women ran the world, it’d be better,” Dominick said.

During the second part of the host-to-host interview, the two chatted about everything from twitter and how people are “imprisoned” to it, to juice-cleanses and the unemployment rate.

On Dominick’s mention of the unemployment rate falling to a then 7.4%, Meagher shared his personal reflections on the unfortunate situation. The Sports Zone host — whose father is a postal worker that has a 12-hour-a-day, 6-day-a-week shift — noted how the current crisis has impacted his home state of Michigan. “Going home it’s actually tangible, it’s sad,” Meagher said.

To Meagher, it’s the working class that is the support system in Michigan. “Blue-collar, basic, laborious type of work drives the state,” he said.

Jumping off that point into a more existential topic, Dominick brought up the idea of how one has to have a “purpose-driven” life in order to have a reason to get out of bed in the morning. It’s only then that you’re truly happy with life. “Happiness comes when you have a purpose,” Dominick said.

So what is the “purpose” that drives Meagher? The Sports Zone host admitted that gender equality and gay rights are topics he’s personally passionate about, as he has a gay cousin who has struggled with discrimination his entire life.

This year Indie Radio’s Pete Dominick interviewed various SiriusXM hosts for an exclusive series on Stand Up! With Pete Dominick. To listen in on more host-to-host interviews check out the below playlist. And stay tuned here for even more exclusive host chats.

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