Sharon Osbourne and Julie Chen stepped into the Howard Stern Studios Wednesday to talk about – well – The Talk. Eventually, the conversation shifted to the latest addition to The Talk’s chief competitor, The View:

Jenny McCarthy.

Howard asked Chen and Osbourne to analyze The View’s decision to sign McCarthy, specifically whether ABC made a mistake.

“What made The View so popular and so good was that you had five different women from different walks of life discussing politics. And when whatever happened, when Joy left and when Elizabeth left and they got Jenny in, I think they were trying to lighten the mood at the table – more gossip, more fun, more laughs, Jenny is beautiful, and talented, and smart – and what happened was in my opinion, The View doesn’t know what it is right now,” Chen explained. “What put them on the map and made them good and famous, they don’t do that anymore […] And no one wants to hear Jenny McCarthy talk about the New York mayoral race or politics. They don’t. That’s not what you put Jenny McCarthy on for.”

“Now it’s kind of all over the place,” Osbourne added.

When Howard pushed, Chen submitted that ABC made a mistake with the McCarthy hiring.

“The headline is that The View made a mistake hiring Jenny McCarthy according to Julie Chen,” Howard said.

“A little but, I did kind of [say that], didn’t I,” Chen said. “I’m gonna own it.”

So would McCarthy have been better off on The Talk, a show that according to Osbourne and Chen, avoids talking politics?

“Yes!,” Osbourne and McCarthy said.

While Osbourne and Chen love Barbara Walters and love McCarthy, though, they weren’t shy about their competitive spirit.

“I would be honest to say that we’re gonna wipe the floor with them,” Osbourne said.

“Well we should be happy [if The Talk passes The View in viewers] because it’s a compliment,” Chen said, “but we can’t be [smug].”

Visit The Howard Stern Show SoundCloud page to hear more from the interview, including Osbourne having some fun with Walters’ sexual history, and Osbourne and Chen offering their opinions on whether Walters should have retired.

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