He finished with 20 points, 11 rebounds and six assists en route to an MVP award in the NBA All-Star Celebrity Game, played college ball at Harvard, nearly earned a spot on the Boston Celtics’ roster in the late 1980s before playing professionally in Australia, and from the sound of it, characterizes the ideal “team player.”

Somebody should give a roster spot to United States Secretary of Education Arne Duncan!

Duncan joined Chuck Todd this weekend on his SiriusXM POTUS Politics program, Unscripted with Chuck Todd, to talk about his basketball history. Duncan said he didn’t know he finished with a double-double in the celeb game – “I have no idea Chuck,” Duncan said, “all I know is we won” – and hasn’t rewatched his MVP performance, but did offer a pretty succinct reason for why he seemed to have such an affinity for passing the ball to teammate Skylar Diggins:

“She was one of the few people out there who was actually in shape.”

Duncan added that trying out for the Celtics in 1987 was a “pretty amazing opportunity,” and that he “felt so lucky to be able to play overseas” in Australia for four years.

As for the role basketball plays in his day job? Duncan explained to Todd that it helps him gain credibility with his audience.

When I visit high schools, I often play with the high school teams, or play H.O.R.S.E. or something, or I visit college or community college and I’ll practice with them. When I go to Native American reservations, I play. It’s very, very different for the kids – instead of seeing some guy in a suit who they think they might not relate, you spend an hour with them in a gym, then you sit down with them and have a conversation, it’s a very different conversation. It’s fun for me, it’s a good break, it’s a way for kids to see much as much more human, and relate to me.

Unscripted with Chuck Todd airs Saturdays at 9 am and 5 pm ET, Sundays at 1 am, 1 pm and 9 pm ET, and Mondays at 2 am ET on SiriusXM POTUS Politics, channel 124.

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