Mel Gibson returned to the director’s chair for his latest film, Hacksaw Ridge, which tells the story of Desmond Doss who was the first conscientious objector to receive the Medal of Honor. The movie follows Doss’ experience during World War II, including his heroism during the Battle of Okinawa.

Gibson, alongside two of the film’s actors — Vince Vaughn and Luke Bracey — sat down with John Fugelsang for a Town Hall event Wednesday. They discussed the central themes of the film, which incorporates religious tones, as well as love and loyalty.

“[Doss] transcends any kind of human squabbling, he transcends sides in a place where, in a situation, in the hell of war, he goes into the epicenter of battle and combat and he’s just in a different realm altogether,” Gibson explained. “He had the courage and conviction to crawl in and consider others before himself, which is I think — man, if we could all be like that, there wouldn’t be war.”

Gibson also weighed in on the current state of the politics in the United States.

“In this time, we all need to transcend what’s going on. I think that’s the only way around it because the choices we have are, they’re not good choices at the moment, I think,” Gibson added. “We have to find another way, as Desmond did.”

“Tell Me Everything” with John Fugelsang airs weekdays at 2 pm ET on SiriusXM Insight (Ch. 121)

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